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Polish assistance?
[edit]Hello Piotrus, looking through some old content of mine I found I wrote about A Wizard of Earthsea: "In 1984 it won the Złota Sepulka [pl] or the "Golden Sepulka" in Poland." The citations I had for this are poor, and I can't find better ones. Do you have insight into whether this is worth mentioning in an FA? If so, would you be willing to check for sourcing in Polish, just for that statement? Best, Vanamonde93 (talk) 00:18, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93 The award is notable, so I think it should be mentioned. A quick search (I am leaving home right now) yielded this seemingly RS: https://cejsh.icm.edu.pl/cejsh/element/bwmeta1.element.ojs-doi-10_24425_kn_2023_146546 , seems to be in English even, and could be useful for something else, perhaps? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:03, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Perfect, thanks! The book has so much published analysis that it might be difficult to work in elsewhere but I will have a look. Vanamonde93 (talk) 02:17, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Interestingly, it does post-date my writing of the FA, which would explain why I couldn't find it then. Vanamonde93 (talk) 02:20, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- FYI the Sepulka award is pretty niche. I still lean towards the view that FA on a book should list all awards, but I could see how for some it could be close to trivia. So it's your call. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:31, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Interestingly, it does post-date my writing of the FA, which would explain why I couldn't find it then. Vanamonde93 (talk) 02:20, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Perfect, thanks! The book has so much published analysis that it might be difficult to work in elsewhere but I will have a look. Vanamonde93 (talk) 02:17, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
Psychiatry Under the Influence
[edit]Hello! Funnily enough, I was tasked with finding a DOI for an article in one of my classes; which led me to your Psychiatry Under the Influence wiki page. To preface, I have never written or edited a wiki page so I don’t have the skill to edit a page properly. With this, I noticed that there is a small error within the citation referencing
Marecek, Jeanne (November 2016). "Robert Whitaker and Lisa Cosgrove, Psychiatry under the influence: Institutional corruption, social injury, and prescriptions for reform" [. Feminism & Psychology. 26 (4): 511-514. doi:10.1177/0959353516663966 . ISSN 0959-3535 C.
This error being, that the DOI links to a review of the source, not the actual source. And when I looked, it doesn’t appear that the referenced work has a DOI so it may cause some confusion. If you have a better solution than just removing it, feel free to let me know, as I am still learning about proper citation!
Thanks!
[ [User:Meowmiaoumeow|Meowmiaoumeow]] (talk) 16:17, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Meowmiaoumeow Perhaps I misunderstood your message, but I think this is as intended. As in, it was my intention to link to reviews of the book in question, because it is reviews (or other mentions of the topic - here, book - in independent sources) that can be used as a source. The book itself (which is the topic of the article) is a WP:PRIMARY source and it can be used at best to summarize contents. The article about a book has to be written from sources that talk about the book. See for example The Dark Domain which I am finishing right now, or non-fiction The Use and Abuse of History which I expanded recently.
- Sidenotes:
- I think your sig code is broken
- funnily enough, I am a university lecturer who regularly assigns my students to edit Wikipedia. Kudos to you that you have done so by yourself (even if it is just to leave me a message about a potential error). I'd encourage you to try to edit Wiki yourself, it is fun for many of us here (like a video game... complete another article = get a unique achievement), and for me it certainly helped me develop professional skills in writing and collaboration that helped me become a professor :D Food for thought.
- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:04, 26 March 2025 (UTC)